{"id":18635,"date":"2024-04-25T06:48:02","date_gmt":"2024-04-25T06:48:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kingscollegehospitaldubai.com\/?post_type=podcasts&p=18635"},"modified":"2024-04-25T07:00:24","modified_gmt":"2024-04-25T07:00:24","slug":"kings-episode-4-pregnancy-questions-and-midwife-services-in-dubai-midwife-advisor-at-kings","status":"publish","type":"podcasts","link":"https:\/\/kingscollegehospitaldubai.com\/ru\/podcasts\/kings-episode-4-pregnancy-questions-and-midwife-services-in-dubai-midwife-advisor-at-kings\/","title":{"rendered":"KING\u2019S EPISODE #4 PREGNANCY QUESTIONS AND MIDWIFE SERVICES IN DUBAI | MIDWIFE ADVISOR AT KING’S"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Welcome To The King podcast season 2 today we’re joined with Maddie would you be able to introduce yourself just for<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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the people listen in at home yeah absolutely so I’m Maddie I’m one of The Midwives at Kings I currently work as a<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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mid referee advisor which is a new team that we’ve set up over the past three or four months um so I work with a couple<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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of other midwives basically being everyone’s Midwife so we’re no one specific we’re open for everybody it’s a<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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complimentary thing we’re always around for Dro and support and we teach the antinator classes um new silly questions<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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for us we have a WhatsApp line so anytime anything you want to know in your pregnancy you can always reach out<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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to us um as well as um my background is for the last year I’ve been working on the labor Ward here at Kings so um a bit<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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of both and I still hope to do a few shifts on the labor Ward for is where my heart is um but it’s great experience<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you know for for real life scenarios that all the questions that often get asked it’s a good thing you said no City<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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questions because we might have a lot of City questions today Danielle and I have never been pregnant we want to put<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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ourselves in the position of pregnant women and talk about pregnancy fears today so let’s start with right as you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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get pregnant what kind of requ questions do women come to you with like just as they got pregnant or found out I think<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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the biggest thing is like what do I do now because I think I mean it’s scary taking a pregnancy test one if you know<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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is it going to be positive is it negative and also there’s so many scenarios why people do them you know<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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have they been trying for a long time is it a surprise unplanned or you’ve just<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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had a baby and then recently found out you’re pregnant again which happens a lot and we can get into that later but<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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yeah often it’s just like that shock you know even if you’ve been trying and trying it’s still a oh my God like it’s<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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happening so often it’s like okay what now so especially here in Dubai because<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it’s consultant L care and the first thing really is like to choose a doctor we have the luxury of doing that here in<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Dubai so always I just send them straight to like a website and just say have a look through you know we have so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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many different doctors that are so good in all their own different ways so that honestly for a lot of people is like a<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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make or break kind of thing you know either you know it’s because of the language that they speak so they feel<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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more comfortable speaking in their in their mother tongue or it’s because they specialize in like natural birth or<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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C-section or high-risk pregnancy and often even if you’re pregnant for the first time you’d know if you had<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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something that would mean you’d need something you know medical history or something like that um so that’s kind of<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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the place to start and then obviously the midwives are around so often if they’re coming in for their first<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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appointment we’ll just say come and chat with us because always there is so many questions what can I eat eat what can I<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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not eat what can I do am I allowed to exercise like all of these kind of like just general questions but they are<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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obviously important ones because we do we don’t want to harm our our six week old baby or whatever time you find out<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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so yeah they’re kind of the general ones really for the start so I guess one of the big questions that you get is when<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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can I tell people yeah definitely and I think the thing is there’s no right or wrong so if you especially people always<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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want to tell like their moms or you know the person that they know who’s been pregnant because they want to get that<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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reassurance and ask all the questions to and I always have you know I’m always the first to know because usually they<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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text me and they’re like what do I do you know and it can be from the moment you take the pregnancy test if you need<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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that support or for other people they want to wait until the kind of big screening tests and things like that so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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the first kind of bigger test that you’ll have is around the 12we point where they do the first scan and they<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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test for lots of different conditions so things like down syndrome um Edward’s syndrome P things like that so often<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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they kind of you know big conditions that it’s worth thinking about beforehand some people will choose not<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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to do the screening um some people will um and then the other test is around the 20 weeks where they have the anomaly<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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scan so again that’s looking at all the structures for the baby and things like that so some people especially if<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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they’ve maybe had a miscarriage before or a baby with one of the conditions um<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and they might tend to wait a bit longer and however there’s kind of a more recent food for thought that actually<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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people don’t want to tell you know their friends and family in case they were to have a miscarriage or something went<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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wrong but actually I think about it like if you did have these things happen to you you want the support from those<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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people so actually you know if you do have a few trusted people that would support you through anything positive or<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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negative then my thought is maybe you should tell those people because they can support you then throughout<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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everything yeah that’s so true I feel like from the minute you find out there’s so many things that you could be<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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thinking of so many concerns running through your mind I bet a lot of moms like from that first appointment leave<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it with like a weight listed off of their shoulders like get all of these questions out speak to obviously<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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professionals I that that feeling is like yeah I hope so that’s the aim anyway but also like now we started our<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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new Instagram page so the idea for that because you can Google everything I’m always like please don’t Google things<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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because Dr Google is never a good idea and especially with pregnancy one thing will tell you you can do it one will<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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tell you you can’t and you know it’s it’s just never a good idea so the idea is with our team and and obviously like<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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good sources of support and like the Instagram is it’s all the contents come from us so we meted it all we have made<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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sure it’s evidence-based and also the evidence-based changes all the time so I’ve been a midwife a qualified Midwife<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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now for almost four years and in that time even from what I was taught in University to now some of that advice<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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has completely changed so it’s for us as well to stay up to date so always it’s one of those kind of you know what is<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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that latest evidence why is that a thing and also converting it to duai as well<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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because for me obviously I’m from the UK and I trained in the UK as a midwife and the practice there is similar because<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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we’re in Kings London and we try and match that as much as possible but there’s differences so even like for a newborn baby the temperature is very<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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different here to in the UK so what’s the different advice for hot weather and stay hydrated and that kind of thing so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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yeah for me always I try and stay as up to date as possible because like you say I’m the adop to Google so I need to be<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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making sure the information I’m giving is you know solid and evidence-based it’s quite nice that<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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there’s one team as well because Google can be quite overwhelming I think pregnancy in itself can be quite<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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overwhelming so something else that people must have a lot of questions about espe in the first trimester is<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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what foods I can and can’t eat and there’s so many foods that people have questions about so what would you say to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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them I could go on all day about what foods and drinks and things like that but always I tend to stick with again<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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because I’m British Dre Midwife I often stick to like the NHS guidelines um so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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actually on the NHS website the UK um NHS is basically an A to Z of all the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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foods and whether they’re safe and whether they’re not and how cooked they need to be and what precautions you need to take so that’s often a really good<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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way to start and then if there’s any specific questions then I can try and help around that but like I say it’s<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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difficult because things do change so quickly all the time so sometimes I’m even researching things because they<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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could have changed since I last looked or whatever whereas something like that is always being updated all the time<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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there’s teams specifically to do that and so usually I kind of will say you know take a look at that and then let me<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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know if there’s more questions um Cathy is another one as well because a lot of<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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people have a lot of copy so actually that wasn’t a point that you but<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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absolutely you know especially if you’re really tired in early pregnancy which often is the case um but in general they<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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just say like 200 milligrams so usually like one average size cup a day and then<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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or have Decap um as well is important and same actually with breastfeeding on the other side people kind of forget<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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about it by then um but actually caffeinees in a lot of things you don’t think about you know some like fizzy<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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drinks like you know I don’t if I’m allowed to mention names fizzy drinks<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and um like even panad doll some panad dolls have caffeine in um so it’s just<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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really being aware and you can drive yourself crazy with some of these things but I always just think if you’re ever<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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unsure that’s what our numbers for I have countless times ladies just sending me pictures of the back of a packet and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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saying is this okay or not but that’s that’s fine that’s what we’re here for so okay so the only time Dr Google is<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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allowed is when you’re at the NHS website but what foods can I and can’t I use okay oh NHS in general is<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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often people feel it better by the H of so maybe like morning sickness and things have kind of subsided and so they<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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talk about like the pregnancy glow and things like that but also I think it’s really important because especially in<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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the day and age that we’re living in every think social media related it’s normal to not feel the pregnancy GL and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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feel super amazing and you know you’ve got a bump and all of these things like some people have a tough time in<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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pregnancy and they are really tired and and don’t feel like you know doing a lot of the things they normally would do so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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I think normalizing that is really important as well and but often women say that that’s kind of their favorite<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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time of being pregnant because they’re not super pregnant so they haven’t got like maybe the aches and pains they might have later on um and then the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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sickness is maybe gone as well so often it’s kind of yeah maybe a an nicer time<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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as part of the pregnancy and at that point especially around like the 28 week Mark is when really we talk about like a<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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pattern of baby’s movements and things like that so you know that also makes it very real for a lot of people they’ve<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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maybe felt a few flutters and things and think is it a kick is it not but really from then and and again that’s a big<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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advice that we always give to all women is babies movements are their only way of actually telling you if they’re okay<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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or not so listen to them get to know their pattern um and again that’s something that the evidence has changed<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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over the years so sometimes we hear people saying like you know actually<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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they might slow down their movements near the end of pregnancy because they’ve run out of room but it’s all myths so they should not change their<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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pattern at all and it’s not even just like a re Bo movements it could just be that okay every morning I wake up and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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they’re kicking away and then one morning they are kicking but they’re kicking a bit less than normal or they’re not kicking at all all of those<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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times after 28 weeks when you learn their pattern um we always want you to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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come in and get checked because like I say that’s their way of communicating with us and it is you know often you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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come in we put the the ctg monitor on and then they start kicking right crazy which is brilliant but I always say like<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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we’d rather you come in 10 times and every time they kick like crazy and that one time you know so that’s a really<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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important thing that we do always kind of spread the word about cuz there is a lot of kind of misinformation around<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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that um another one we always hear as well is like sit down spend an hour like<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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have a sugary drink have something to eat and actually that’s not the current evidence because that’s just delaying<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you coming for a checkup you know and if your baby is showing signs that they’re not so happy and they we need to do<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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something then youve put that off by an hour cuz you sat and You’ eat and then you know after you’ve s out half an hour<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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to get to the hospital or whatever it is um so yeah that’s kind of a big message<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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that I think is important in that second trimester to really know about and then obviously that’s tipping over into the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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third trimester as well so as a woman your body is changing and I think<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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probably in the second trimester is when you first experienced those big changes what you said yeah I think so and I mean<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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a lot of it hormonally is really like first trimester because your body’s realizing it’s pregnant and it needs to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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do a lot of things and the tiredness is really a big thing because because you can’t see anything necessarily you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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almost forget how much your body is doing like especially in the first 12 weeks all those major components you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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know the spinal cord and the neural Pathways and all of these really important things are being made and you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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know then obviously the second trimester is more like the little details so you know the fingernails and the eyelashes<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and things like that and you know always no matter what you’re doing even if you’re sleeping your body’s still making<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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this little human so I think it’s easy to forget how much it is doing and you know always I get as like oh I’m so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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tired or I’m always really thirsty I’m always hungry it’s like well yeah you’re doing a lot of work like you need to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and often because you still need to fuel your body and same with the second trimester well all the way to sure<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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really but stay well hydrated if you don’t feel like big meals at least like snack little and often and then you’re<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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at least given your body a chance because these babies they just take take take care from you so they will leave<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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something because again that’s a common thing for pregnancy to have lower iron again your baby’s taking it all from you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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um so it’s just fuel in your body going forward as well as so important I feel<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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like a lot of concerns that you’ll mainly get is kind of fear of Labor<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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especially for first time LS I mean we had a quick discussion before the podcast and like what would our concerns<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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be and what would our fear be and a lot of it was about mine was be the exact like giving birth that would be the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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scariest part of I think it’s the the pain Association right and it even like<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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in films TV it it looks scary yeah and so what kind of concerns do you normally<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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get is there certain questions that people are always asking yeah I mean I think it’s just a generalization like<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you say our society has not grown up around birth being a normal thing and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you know back in the day you’d be in your house with the women of the family moms aunties sisters grandmas around you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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to support you in birth and that’s kind of where midwives actually came from is like you know with woman is what Midwife<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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actually means so it’s all about being with the women and supporting them through lifechanging thing so often I<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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think we’ve lost that you know in the UK I worked um with a home birth team when I was a student midwife and it was<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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amazing because actually the first home birth I ever saw was um it was her I think fourth baby of all girls she was<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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also one of I think maybe four girls and her daughters were around they were you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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know just they were quite little but they were aware of what was going on and then as soon as the baby was born they<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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all were crowded around her pool that she had at home and yeah it was such a lovely experience and for me that’s like<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Ah that’s what Bird’s really about and you know unfortunately through time it’s great we have medical advances and we<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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give birth in hospitals sometimes but they do save lives but also I think we’ve forgotten what nature intended and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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I teach a hypn birthing so the way I think about birth is sometimes a bit different it’s kind of going back to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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okay well what did nature intend what was the reason for that and how can we make that possible in a hospital setting<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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for example so especially around like pain and contractions and the actual<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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giving birth it’s just really about reframing the way you think about it and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and that’s kind of what the hypn birthing is all about because basically if I was to ask you guys what’s the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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first three things that pop into your head when you think about becoming a parent labor but give me an example of<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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what you think of pain pain yeah fa yeah not prepared<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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unprepared and I always do that actually at the start of my HIIT birthing classes and then by the end we get the pieces of<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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paper back out and say have I changed your mind um because actually you know it all about just reframing your brain<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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because your subconscious is there to keep you alive it’s like your fight or flight and again hospitals also are<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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usually a place you come if you’re unwell or something it’s not good or family members not well so they’re all<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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negative things and you know luckily in Dubai a lot of the time we choose hospitals for different things so you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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might only come here because you’re pregnant and because you’re having that nice experience but still it’s just your<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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body knows you’re in this kind of scenario so it thinks adrenaline I need to save myself like why am I here kind<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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of thing and especially in labor that can be really kind of slow down the process and you know ping these thoughts<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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of fight or flight which is the last thing that we need when we try to calm and in control and get those good<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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labor hormones going so basically what you need to do is reframe what your subconscious think so the way you do<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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that is just exposing yourself to positives so positive birth stories positive affirmations speaking to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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like-minded people speaking to midwives you know all of these kind of things that tell you that it’s not as bad as<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you think it is and you know we wouldn’t make good TV or films if we had these lovely normal birs they want a bit of<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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drama so they’re never going to show you truly what birth is and you know I’ve been with hundreds of women in labor and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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actually a tiny tiny proportion of the time is it actually an emergency where<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it’s not so calm and in control but the majority of people do have positive births but they don’t tell people about<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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them because we’re not programmed to tell people about the positive things we’re always tell a negative um actually<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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a doctor was telling me the other day that you know if someone had a negative experience they’d tell 500 people but if<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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someone had a positive they till 5 so we don’t hear these you know and especially when you’re pregnant everyone rushes to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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tell you their awful birth stories and you think why you know or even to ask about the hard part so what do I need to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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like watch out for and stuff but not really ask about okay what was good yeah absolutely and it’s really sad because<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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actually it’s amazing and for me like where my background when I was a student<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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was and why I found the hypn birthing route kind of the way I try to practice my Midwifery is so I was doing a nursing<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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placement and um I was on a like a Alzheimer’s Ward and there was a lady<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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who was I think she was about 90 really Advanced dementia and she couldn’t even<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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tell me what day of the week it was but she noticed on my badge that I was a midwife and she said oh what are you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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doing here and and then she said um all six of her births she could tell me from start to finish and I was like that is<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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amazing so that just shows how important your birth experience is and for a lot<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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of people it’s just like I’m going to go in I’m going to get it done and then I’ll have a baby at the end but it’s not about that because it stays with you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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forever and actually you know being prepared will make it a positive<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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experience no matter what it looks like so whether you you know plan a natural water birth with no medication or you’re<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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having a planned elective C-section or you want an epidural whatever that is as long as you’re well informed and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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prepared and you’re making decisions that are right for you that’s the most important thing and it will be the best<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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day ever cuz you’re meeting your baby after all this time and it will like although yes you might have other babies<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and there’s other times to have different experiences the thing I always say and people listening that have met<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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me will laugh CU I always say it is you only have one chance to have that baby so the baby that’s being grown right now<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you have one chance of doing that birth so don’t compromise don’t feel like oh just see you know plan for it educate<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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yourself make sure you’re happy along the way ask question questions feel well supported cuz that’s the thing that will<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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reduce the likelihood of birth trauma or and especially for dads as well because actually a lot of dads are the ones that<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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come away maybe with like birst trauma or negative experiences because the moms obviously get so much going on and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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hormones and everything and baby pain relief but for the dads they’re almost like sober in that situation they’re<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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taking everything in and often the mom might have gaps in the memory that then the dad will fill in so even again again<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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like in all of our classes we encourage the dads to come along and and educate themselves as well one to be a really good birth partner but also to process<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it themselves because they’re also going through they’re becoming a dad they’re going to have this new baby to look after and they’re going to see their<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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partner the person that they love you know going through something that if they don’t know what’s going on it can be really scary so it’s really important<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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really as a team you know whether your birth partner is your husband or your mom or a friend whoever it is do it<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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together cuz the preparation together will then make the birth experience and life with a newborn much easier and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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hopefully more positive as well your positive opin and Outlook is exactly what people when they H in the rooms<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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like you can do this you’ve got this it’s a good so the message really is to enjoy it like where you can like it<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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doesn’t have to be scary I mean everyone’s going to be scared because it’s the unknown and you don’t know but<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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yeah you got to enjoy it and I think as well we can take comfort in the fact that like our bodies are amazing and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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they know what to do right like they your body will give you signs and tell you what to do throughout the whole<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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process yeah and that’s another thing that I always like when I say Going Back To Nature is actually you know your body<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you trust it to grow the baby for nine months and then we suddenly lose this trust when it when we have to give birth<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it’s like why have you lost the trust now it’s done it’s grown those eyelashes it’s growing those fingernails and every little detail it’s just that it is our<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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kind of subconscious and that’s telling us that birth is scary birth is this awful thing that we cannot you know do<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and we need help for it okay so you just given the birth your baby you’ve had a wonderful experience it was great the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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fear of then having this human to look out so it’s out of its little bubble<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it’s out of the controlled environment what’s the next step yeah<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and that often is the really scary part because you’re in the hospital you’ve got you know a nurse at the end of a<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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buzzer you’ve got doctors always checking and then you’re sent off home and then it’s like okay what now and and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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often you know parents say they just are looking at this new baby they’re like okay this is mine now I’ve got to keep<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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this little thing alive and fed and watered and happy and honestly you know<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it is a challenging time and this is where I think the teamwork really comes in yeah however you’re feeding your baby<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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whatever choices you make is you know make sure you’ve got that support system around you as much as you can and we’re<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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looking at Kings actually my colleague Nicola she does the home visits so for us in the UK Community midwives is a<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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standard you would always have a community Midwife come out to you at home usually the day after you’ve gone<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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home from the hospital and then usually like back day five and maybe day 10 um<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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but here obviously it’s a bit different because midwives are always like an added extra um but actually a lot of<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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insurance companies do cover it here so it’s always worth checking and if not then it’s worth every penny um because<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it is it bridges that Gap um you know if you don’t have another appointment back in the hospital for a week or two weeks<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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then it’s a long time with a new baby to know they’re okay and they’re gaining weight and you know their Dawn dis<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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levels are okay all these kind of things that you just want to know and again our Midwife advisory line is still open once<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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he have the baby so we can still help as much as possible um always again I get lots of pictures of rashes and different<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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things and cords and say is this okay is this normal and that’s fine that’s that’s why we are here um but it’s great<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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to be able to have someone to come out to your house that is a clinical professional and we’ll bring the kit<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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that we need to do not only for babies but also for the mom so we’ll also do a top to check top to toe check of mom and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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um you know if you had any stitches or you had a C-section and your wound um to be checked nickel it all of that as well<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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so it definitely is just get your village I actually went to an event yesterday that said it takes a village<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and it’s very true and think about it beforehand because sometimes it’s a bit too late when you get there and you’re<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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like oh overwhelmed and over tired and and it’s just you and your partner maybe you know then it’s difficult to find it<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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but SE these things out beforehand and have like an action plan in place almost so okay you know I my first plan is to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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exclusively breastfeed if there’s any issues with that then who am I going to go to for support okay well I’ve got the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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midwives I’ve got the lactation consultant I’ve got you know external providers like all of these things that<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you can line up so if you need them you’ve got them hopefully you won’t but at least then you’ve got a plan and it’s<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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not like 2 a.m. and Dr Google comes in and and you know frantically looking for<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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an answer um yeah that’s that’s really a good idea to do beforehand so one thing<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you mentioned Hypno birthing I don’t know if we actually mentioned what it was uhhuh can we quickly just describe<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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do you know what it is no idea so I know it’s about positive affirmations and reframing the way that you think about<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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pregnancy breathing techniques I’ve been to an event with Maddie where she’s done what is the what is the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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shap so yeah please continue explain yeah absolutely and basically what it is<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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is just gaining knowledge so it’s like an indepth antinal education so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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obviously we have like General antinator classes that cover a bit of everything um but this the way I teach it is over a<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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month so it’s like every we do it every Tuesday evening um for two hours with<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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your birth partner comes along it’s actually very birth partner focused um and I teach from a UK company the little<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Birth Company um so it’s brilliant it’s just one of those things that everyone who’s done it doesn’t regret it even if<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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they had an emergency c section and it was you know we planned for plan a and we ended up at plan Z you know it still<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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was helpful you know and really it is learning the evidence behind the care that you’re getting so you can advocate<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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for yourself know that the choices you’re making are the right ones for you it is very much geared around a positive<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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birth experience so no matter what that looks like it can still be positive because you’ve prepared and because you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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know you’ve got a good team around you you know you’ve maybe prepared with your husband or you’ve got a Dueler or<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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anything like that um really it is like you say breathing techniques is a big one a lot of women who do the hypn<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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birthing do choose to kind of avoid pain medication but it’s not a must you can still plan to have an epidural or or use<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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an epidural and still use the techniques really as as well it’s about learning what your body’s doing so start to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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finish what does label look like you know what is happening on the inside so you can recognize if something’s outside<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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of that normal and then think about things you can do to help your body so working with it and not against it is a<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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massive one um and I think once you have that understanding it all gets a bit less scary anyway um because you just<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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know okay you know this is a normal thing it might take a couple of days of stop and start contractions and a first<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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time M you know I’m not flock watching and you waiting for all this to happen and think oh it’s too slow something<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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must be wrong you know it’s normal so already you’re more calm and therefore your birthing hormones will do what they<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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need to do so it really is trust in the process as well and understanding we<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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can’t always plan for birth these babies and your body might decide something different on the day or on the leadup<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and the plan might change but knowing we do a lot of scenarios as well so if this was to happen you know what does the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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evidence say and making it individualized as well because you know a lot of the things that we do teach in<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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the anti-at class for example we have to make it General because there’s all sorts of women with different scenarios<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and backgrounds within it that a lot of the time is just having like the one-on-one time as well so again drop<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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into the clinic if you have anything along the along the way because we have to look through all your pregnancy notes<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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if you’ve got any medical history um and sometimes I think it’s forgotten because we do a lot of the like sideline things<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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here we are clinical professionals so we can assess your pregnancy we can<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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recommend if a water birth for example would be recommended or there’s reasons that it might not be so safe all of this<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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kind of thing alongside your obstetrician and we do work very closely with them to figure out you know is<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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there a way that this might be outside the guideline but what’s the way we can work that so you still can get the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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things that are most important to you out of it um all of this is really relevant to HP birthing but also mid<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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wise in general and what our role is and which I also don’t think people really know cuz we’re not midwives aren’t a<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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thing in every country um we’re lucky in M we are the lead care providers so you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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know we actually only refer to a doctor if something’s wrong so it’s good thing if you don’t see a doctor there whereas here it’s the complete opposite so a lot<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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of women um especially from European countries because midwives are often the lead care providers for normal pregnancy<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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um are kind of shocked where it’s like well who’s my Midwife where is my Midwife and that’s kind of what we’re<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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trying to do with our new team is be everyone’s Midwife as much as possible it’s a lot of work but it’s it’s nice<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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because we can follow people through all the way if they want to they could come and see us after every doctor’s appointment if they want to as well so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it is just knowing that we’re there and that’s what we’re here for so really you are like a a huge pillar of support for<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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these women right yes then your roll in a nutshell exactly that’s all we do yeah<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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absolutely but I think as well it’s important to know that when you are in labor you’ll have onetoone care with<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Midwife um obviously cuz we’re King’s London we’re trying to match that British care as much as possible and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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that’s what you would have in the UK um and obviously we work again alongside jobs attrition very closely um with the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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plan and updating them but often that large sense of support and clinical care for labor is from The Midwives and so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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that’s also something that people don’t know until they turn up on the day um you know it’s not necessarily that you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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can meet them before because we all do shifts and but actually even if you can’t meet them before they’re all great<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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so you’re in good hands with whoever you’re with um and again midwives are trained to be Advocates we are the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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experts in normal and even if you have a very high risk pregnancy we can still make the things happen so for example<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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you want your music on you want the lights low you want to be mobile we’re there to suggest positions and monitor<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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the baby monitor the labor you know give suggestions if things are slowed down how can we help to speed them up you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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know aside from medication you know positioning and breathing and all sorts of things really as a sense of support<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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but at the end of the day as well we are clinically trained professionals to spot if something’s outside of that normal so<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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if it is that’s our time to refer to a doctor which again would be our UK practice but even more so here the<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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doctors obviously around a bit more because they’re the lead care provider um but we are often the ones who are you<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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know reading the heart rate of the baby assessing the contractions doing like<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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the internal examinations to see dilation all of these kind of things so it’s a bit of both we’re a bit of<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

what is your top secret for dealing with pregnancy?<\/div>\n
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everything really okay so we’re going to finish off with our final question that we ask everyone and yours is what is<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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your top secret for dealing with pregnancy okay I think the biggest thing is don’t forget that your body knows<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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what it’s doing trust your instincts and don’t be afraid to advocate for yourself<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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because you know your body best and you will know your baby best whether it’s in pregnancy whether it’s during labor or<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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when the baby’s born you know you will be thrown loads of kind of tests and scans and vaccinations and options and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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it’s difficult to navigate that so seek help don’t Dr Google it um and and<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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honestly trust your instincts is my biggest message because you know we have lost that over time and we need to<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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definitely trust ourselves our bodies are amazing things that that do incredible things as well so trust it<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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and don’t be afraid to reach out because we’re here to help yeah thank you so much for coming<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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on the H we have so many questions so we’ll probably have you on again I’m<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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